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CLAUDE SOLVES 25-YEAR-OLD MYSTERY SURROUNDING NSA CRYPTOGRAPHIC STANDARDS

Anthropic researchers report that Claude solved a decades-old mystery surrounding the origins of the NIST elliptic curves used in widely adopted cryptographic standards.

For more than 25 years, cryptographers questioned how the NSA generated the mysterious seed values used to construct these curves, raising concerns that they could contain hidden backdoors.

In under 30 minutes, Claude reportedly discovered that the seeds were generated using a simple 1990s pseudorandom number generator initialized with Unix timestamps.

The discovery allowed researchers to reproduce the seeds for five major NIST curves, including P-256, and significantly weakens suspicions that their parameters were deliberately manipulated.

However, some questions remain unanswered, including why certain candidate curves were skipped during selection.

IMPORTANT FOR BITCOIN: Bitcoin uses ECDSA with the secp256k1 curve, not the NIST P-256 curve investigated here. The discovery does not reveal a vulnerability in Bitcoin’s cryptography or change its security assumptions.

Anthropic says the findings are not a cryptographic break and require no action from users.
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Short version for Bitcoin: this doesn't touch it. The post is about NIST's P-192 through P-521 curves. Bitcoin signs with ECDSA on secp256k1, a different curve with different parameters. Secp256k1 is defined by the simple equation y² = x³ + 7 over a prime field, and its constants were not generated from a seeded random generator, so the lrand48 finding has no direct path into it.

What Anthropic reported (published October 16, 2026, and covered the same day by several outlets): an internal research model traced the seeds for five NIST prime curves to lrand48, a 1990s C-library generator seeded with Unix timestamps from roughly May 1997 to April 1998. Reported figures: P-256's seed was the 1842nd candidate in that run, and the work took under 30 minutes. Anthropic says it is not a cryptographic break and that users need to change nothing.

What remains open, per the same coverage: the B-163 seed, the base points for P-224, P-256, P-384 and P-521, and why some candidates were skipped. The $36,864 bounty is being donated to the Internet Security Research Group.

The real Bitcoin-adjacent question is the long-term one: quantum computers would threaten ECDSA on any curve, secp256k1 included. That is a separate debate, and it's covered in the thread on quantum computers and Bitcoin. Has anyone here read Anthropic's full write-up and checked the published code?

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🕒 As of October 2026

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Following up on my first reply with what I could and couldn't check.

Checked against the primary page: Filippo Valsorda's bounty announcement (5 October 2023) sets the terms: the five prime-order NIST seeds (P-192, P-224, P-256, P-384, P-521) were the targets, and a winner could take the cash or name a US 501(c)(3) charity to receive triple the amount, listed as $36,864. The binary-curve seeds (B-163 and up) were explicitly not eligible. That matches the donation figure and the B-163 gap reported in my earlier reply.

Not checked: the page I could load is the 2023 version. It doesn't mention lrand48, the 1997–98 timestamps, or any 2026 claim. Those details, including the 1842nd-candidate figure for P-256, come to me from secondary coverage only (OfficeChai and others). I haven't read Anthropic's own write-up or its code, so treat those numbers as reported, not verified.

One thing worth checking: the 2023 page estimated, with 99% confidence, a counter below 1175 for P-256, under the assumptions then in use. A reported 1842 is above that, so either the assumptions changed (a different search procedure than the one modelled) or a number is off. I can't tell which without the primary sources.

Has anyone read Anthropic's post directly and can say how the 1842 figure arises?

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